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So he Does Apologise...In 2013 ...
Except that wasn't really an apology. From the looks of it, he banned a JW apologist from his website for making all these cringe "come back to Jehovah God!" comments. Then he realised that it was better to keep him round for amusement purposes. He had an easy target to ridicule so naturally he wanted him back to show off for the crowd his debating skills.
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There's some manipulation going on with the Patron numbers. First it was 552, then it bumped to 554, then down to 553. Now it's 556. As much as we dislike the man here, there are Cedarite groups all over Facebook, Discord and WhatsApp group texts. I know because I've infiltrated a few. Here's how it goes: Oh look at this one-star Goodreads review! We need to report it and upvote the 5 star ones! Might be the same with Patreon. Instead of the amount a husband/wife team pledges, they start another pledge at the lowest tier to prop him up. He manipulates those folks there, constantly threatening to quit activism altogether. Where he is at right now isn't a bad haul but at the same time it's not superstar level as he was headed to earlier this year.
Ever hear of Athletic Alchemy? Probably not. He produces content on the NBA and started a little after Lloyd. Now check his Patrons:
Lloyd isn't getting anywhere near 1000 and that's why he's so upset all the time because he was so close. His content is already suffering as he is taking time off to focus on litigation and it's plain for everyone to see his heart is just not in this anymore. No one is working with him so he's well on the road to irrelevance. I reckon it'll be a slow bleed from here on out.
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Can't be worse than a Lloyd song.
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i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.
https://jw.watch.
please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..
Avoid JW has been relaunched (it had been dormant ever since Lloyd got into it and went after the owner, Jason M Wynne.
Home - Jehovah's Witnesses (avoidjw.org)
Twitter user "Larchwood" is a good source on WT history and has been given their own section called "The Looking Glass" on AvoidJW:
The Looking Glass - Jehovah's Witnesses (avoidjw.org)
Kind of like an updated version of jwfacts and I can assure you the owners are no fans of Lloyd.
For YouTube, the exJW Critical Thinkers (Lady C and JT) have a good mix of doctrinal videos and interviews with former JWs. JT is a former Bethelite elder and has a good grasp on how the WT works.
There are more great sources out there but these two came to mind and would make valuable additions to the links sections.
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How long ago did this happen?
This stunt was round the time he was promoting his book. When his dad did not answer the door, he left a copy of his book at the doorstep. This is not the last time he pulled something like this. On the Leah Remini programme his sob story was bringing his family to do landscaping at his dad's place and watching as his dad drove by. He made a point of relating how he wasn't getting paid for unsolicited yard work, as if it's common practice to for adult children to insist on compensation when helping their elderly parents with household chores.
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Speaking of his dad, it's stunts like this that really irritate me. He's knows his dad isn't opening the door and I can't quite blame him. For all he knows Lloyd has a camera crew and is going to try to humiliate him. Then to drag his daughter to the doorstep and just harp on how and why her grandfather wont see her is traumatic to a child. Then for good measure he uses her as a prop for a social media post. His wife should have stepped in and kept her from going. If he really wanted his dad to see her, he could have gone there himself beforehand to ask. But he wanted clickbait
i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.
https://jw.watch.
please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..
Let’s start with the exit stories, including those from activists already out there. It can be a perfect place to plug their own website and/or content. I believe the exit stories are what JWs are keenly interested in especially when plotting or currently in the middle of their own. Tweet this out, and unlike other activists, solicit feedback and perhaps their idea is better than yours.
Will there be a comment section? It might be a great idea in theory but once Lloyd and his followers get wind of this and how it’s intentionally excluding him, it’s prime bait for his trolls.
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Lloyd or Mark O'Donnell contacted said journalist and told them not to get involved with him.
It wasn't Lloyd directly or the other tree guy. It was Patrick Haeck, the Belgian guy in whose company Lloyd humped a Christmas tree. He basically bad-mouthed Marc and said he wasn't a good source and referred the reporter to JWSurvey. To his credit Haeck later apologised to Marc Latham. He's been silent ever since so I wonder if his opinion on Lloyd has changed.
As for O'Donnell, he's always been a behind the scenes guy, keen to avoid his mentor's mistakes. Though his resignation letter hit most of the right buttons, it sounded contrived in that it seemed he really didn't want to be making that kind of statement. It's almost as if he ran his statement by Lloyd first and was advised to throw some shade at Kim Silvio as a compromise. It was completely unnecessary and made an otherwise decent letter sound suspicious. Add in the fact that Lloyd is still vocally supportive of his work, I wouldn't be so quick to send him money either.
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According to a YouTube comment Diana changed her Instagram name and it no longer says Evans.
Here it is. Lloyd follows it so it has to be her. Set to private as expected. No mention of Lloyd, the Evans surname and her bio only stated she was a proud mother, not wife.
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So, what’s he been up to today?
He also tweeted out things that he's grateful for. Mentioned his children, his "satisfying work", his health and "loved ones". No mention of his wife. People immediately jumped on that and he made no attempt to clarify it.
